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PostSubject: the new world order   the new world order EmptySun Jan 04, 2009 12:08 pm

Well you can't know nothing about it and be listening to (hed) isn't it...


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PostSubject: Re: the new world order   the new world order EmptyFri Jan 16, 2009 2:14 am

Zeitgeist the Movie. The most easily understandable, well informed documentary on the true intentions of the architects of the new world order. Attacks religion, government and the financial system. An eye opener for sure.

As a human being it is your responsibility to rebel against the raping of your human liberties.

link to website (if you wanna buy it) - http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

link to the final version of the video (streamable) - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-594683847743189197
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PostSubject: Re: the new world order   the new world order EmptyFri Jan 16, 2009 6:55 am

Endgame by Alex Jones gave me chills. Breaks down the major players of the Dark Agenda and what it is.

Link to buy it: http://prisonplanet.tv/articles/end_game.htm

or watch it on Google Vid: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1070329053600562261&ei=LC9wSZb3BKGG_AGG1_SsBQ&q=endgame&hl=en
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PostSubject: Re: the new world order   the new world order EmptyFri Jan 16, 2009 3:35 pm

andy_factor wrote:
Zeitgeist the Movie. The most easily understandable, well informed documentary on the true intentions of the architects of the new world order. Attacks religion, government and the financial system. An eye opener for sure.

As a human being it is your responsibility to rebel against the raping of your human liberties.

link to website (if you wanna buy it) - http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

link to the final version of the video (streamable) - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-594683847743189197

I've heard so much about this documentary I just had to order it. Thnx for the link.
Ree-suh, that sounds interesting too... wish I could watch it but I'm at work... I'll have to peep it later.
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PostSubject: Re: the new world order   the new world order EmptyFri Jan 16, 2009 5:15 pm

andy_factor wrote:
Zeitgeist the Movie. The most easily understandable, well informed documentary on the true intentions of the architects of the new world order. Attacks religion, government and the financial system. An eye opener for sure.

As a human being it is your responsibility to rebel against the raping of your human liberties.

link to website (if you wanna buy it) - http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

link to the final version of the video (streamable) - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-594683847743189197

Surely you MUST be joking. Look anywhere on the web; Zeitgeist has been debunked and disproven beyond resonable doubt. It's full of misquotes, uncited sources, and things that simply aren't true. It is not a legitimate source of information.
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PostSubject: Re: the new world order   the new world order EmptySat Jan 17, 2009 1:37 am

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Surely you MUST be joking. Look anywhere on the web; Zeitgeist has been debunked and disproven beyond resonable doubt. It's full of misquotes, uncited sources, and things that simply aren't true. It is not a legitimate source of information.

No, i'm not joking actually. And I am aware that there is a lot of cynicism all over the internet as there is and always will be with matters of religion and government - that goes without saying. But if you can show me some sources that "debunk and disprove beyond reasonable doubt" Zeitgeist, and state exactly why those sources are any more believable or credible than the film itself - the I won't laugh in your face.
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PostSubject: Re: the new world order   the new world order EmptySat Jan 17, 2009 2:47 am

Like I said, you can find this shit all over the web. Conspiracy Science is a good example. The problem with the movie is that it's made by and for people who already believe in what the film is about exactly. It has a wealth of faulty information that will be overlooked by most who watch it. In cases it twists reality to fit its own agenda. Honestly, I find it rediculous something like this is being passed off and even worse, ACCEPTED as the "truth". I'm not trying to get into anything here. I'm open to hearing about goverment conspiracies and all that jazz, but I'd rather hear it from a source of information that isn't riddled with errors. Zeitgeist raises a few good points, but not enough to solidify it as a credible source of information.
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PostSubject: Re: the new world order   the new world order EmptySat Jan 17, 2009 5:03 am

Alright, I won't laugh in your face... Shocked

Conspiracy Science was pretty informative and I was impressed with the amount of sourced information it provided. I will point out that not all of the information was sourced and not all of the Zeitgeist movie was disproved, granted a lot of it was. I think most of the holes in his argument were in his analysis of part 2 of the movie - 911 lies. The fact that he is willing to believe witness testimony when it aides his argument but disrepute it when it goes against his argument - means he is doing the same picking and choosing that he accuses the filmmaker of doing.

Thanks Shak none the less.
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PostSubject: Re: the new world order   the new world order EmptyMon Jan 19, 2009 3:59 pm

i have seen Zeitgeist, and have not seen any movies that prove it's wrong. BUT. I didn't believe one bit of it Smile
why? Because of the way it's made. It's simple propoganda. You say something wothout a second opinion, you put on a menacing voice, music, and a lot of people are on that shit now Smile
If that is strong proof your talking about, then why all the effects on it? It's Hollywood bullshit, but at least Hollywood is making it for the fun of it Smile
The fact is there is NO PROOF whatsoever on it, it's just theories, sentences, etc.
I see another thing that bothers me. Who do you think would like americans (and people in general) believing these things? Enemies, probably Smile But i have no proof, so don't make a movie about that! Smile
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PostSubject: Re: the new world order   the new world order EmptyMon Jan 19, 2009 11:57 pm

Alex jones has been exposed, same with loose change.

I never really looked into zeitgeist, I'm skeptic of part one.
www.zeitgeistchallenge.com
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PostSubject: Re: the new world order   the new world order EmptyTue Jan 20, 2009 12:39 am

with or without zeitgeist, i still find it difficult to believe that 911 wasn't an inside job. too many things fit you know. and it became the perfect excuse to enter Afghanistan and then Iraq soon after on the suspicion of supposed 'weapons of mass destruction' which were never found. and i find it very convenient that both of those countries are mass oil producing countries and that bush has close ties with oil cartel families.
i find it hard to believe that the air traffic control and NORAD wouldn't find it suspicious and act on the fact that 4 planes were basically doing fucking acrobatics all over east America.

like pieces of a puzzle. it just fucking fits. zeitgiest just helped me see HOW it may have been achieved and HOW the people were suckered in.
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PostSubject: Re: the new world order   the new world order EmptyTue Jan 20, 2009 8:02 am

have you read the official report on what happened? Smile
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PostSubject: Re: the new world order   the new world order EmptyTue Jan 20, 2009 10:43 am

lol the official report is exactly what i believe has been disproved.
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PostSubject: Re: the new world order   the new world order EmptyWed Jan 21, 2009 6:34 am

no, the question is, have you read it, and the other reports, like the NIST report?
Couse that is what would make your points so much more valid Smile
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PostSubject: Re: the new world order   the new world order EmptyWed Jan 21, 2009 7:19 am

ah okay. true, i'll have to look into it.
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PostSubject: Re: the new world order   the new world order EmptyWed Jan 21, 2009 9:18 am

because, in order to know THE TRUTH, i think it's obligatory to investigate both sides of the story. And to do that yourself Smile
I'm not saying anything is true or false, but believing a movie is wrong, because it's not factual, it's just a presentation Smile
A good read would be on conspiracy theorists. Thei methods, and purpose.
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PostSubject: Re: the new world order   the new world order EmptyThu Jan 29, 2009 1:03 am

geduliss wrote:
because, in order to know THE TRUTH, i think it's obligatory to investigate both sides of the story. And to do that yourself Smile
I'm not saying anything is true or false, but believing a movie is wrong, because it's not factual, it's just a presentation Smile
A good read would be on conspiracy theorists. Thei methods, and purpose.

actuly all the news broadcast are presentations also and the media is often very wrong and report falsely so i guess we can never truely know whos who and whats what in this modern world
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