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PostSubject: Re: Pre-order New World Orphans!   Sat Dec 20, 2008 1:23 am

I just heard it. Not nearly as awesome as I was expecting.
I think they meant for it to be more of an intro song. It's short.
Plus the beginning of the song is really not even a beginning
Lyrics just start and it almost sounds like they've been cut off or something

Other then that though, the lyrics seem good, the music is good
I like it for what it is
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PostSubject: Re: Pre-order New World Orphans!   Sat Dec 20, 2008 1:57 am

lol i know how mad feels i thought the same
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PostSubject: Re: Pre-order New World Orphans!   Sat Dec 20, 2008 2:01 am

I got my stuff. I got back from work like 15 minutes and I find a nice box waiting for me.
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PostSubject: Re: Pre-order New World Orphans!   Sat Dec 20, 2008 2:06 am

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I got my stuff. I got back from work like 15 minutes and I find a nice box waiting for me.
oh you are so lucky mine has to ship such a long way!!
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PostSubject: Re: Pre-order New World Orphans!   Sat Dec 20, 2008 2:07 am

same here tyler, the email I got said it wouldnt arrive til the 22nd

what i dont get though is that billy (zombified) lives in Pennsylvania
and he already got his haha
pennsylvania is further away then Ohio!
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PostSubject: Re: Pre-order New World Orphans!   Sat Dec 20, 2008 2:08 am

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No, I agree with Sinester. I don't think it was a sell out move. And actually, you are NOT paying triple the amount for the 3 CDs. In case you didnt know, when preordering all 3 versions, it only comes out to be like 28 dollars (and thats including the EP and the poster and the buttons/stickers too). So actually you are getting a very good deal. If you were paying 3 times the amount of the CD, itd probably be like almost 50 dollars.

Oh really? Only 28 bucks? That's not bad at all. Did not know that, thanks. Ok, I'm done with my ranting now, lol.

yeah, haha i understand though, if i had to pay money for 3 CDs and it actually was the cost of 3 CDs then i woulda said fuck that. but i got 3 CDs, the EP, a poster, and buttons, all for 28 dollars + shipping. shipping only turned out to be like 10 bucks.
Yeah and not too mention adding other (hed) subnoize releases for less than half the msrp. That was cool too.
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PostSubject: Re: Pre-order New World Orphans!   Sat Dec 20, 2008 11:24 am

lol i payed like 38 bucks for shipping, which sucks Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Pre-order New World Orphans!   Sat Dec 20, 2008 6:31 pm

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lol i payed like 38 bucks for shipping, which sucks Razz
Thats a shitload dude. Evil or Very Mad
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PostSubject: Re: Pre-order New World Orphans!   Sat Dec 20, 2008 6:37 pm

Yeh I ahd to pay fucking $33 to get it to the UK.
Even though I only paid $8 for the DIY guys. Subnoize are fucking assholesto the international community, teh shipping actually cost more than the package itself.
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PostSubject: Re: Pre-order New World Orphans!   Sat Dec 20, 2008 6:41 pm

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Yeh I ahd to pay fucking $33 to get it to the UK.
Even though I only paid $8 for the DIY guys. Subnoize are fucking assholesto the international community, teh shipping actually cost more than the package itself.

Laugh Attack what a crooked world we live in were shipping costs more than the package. How long did it take you to get the D.I.Y.Guys pack. Didn't you receive the week it came out?
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PostSubject: Re: Pre-order New World Orphans!   Sun Dec 21, 2008 12:42 am

I gotta disagree with the 3 different album scenario. I wouldn't call it ambitious..I'd call it a marketing ploy. And when you say 'taking time to make different artwork was a cool move' I just can't see how that would have taken long at all. As far as we know they changed a few colours on the front cover. Hahaha. AND THAT'S IT. I dunno I just don't agree with it is all. 28 dollars is still 28 dollars you know? Anyway having said this respect goes out to the people who DID get all 3. I just happen to be one of the few who feels like it is a shifty move to make more of a buck from hardcore fans. Could one of you kind amigos PM me Live or Die Free. That would be righteous!
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PostSubject: Re: Pre-order New World Orphans!   Sun Dec 21, 2008 5:55 am

Who knows yet though? Maybe the albums will all have unique artwork? Most likely its just the cover, but I am still stoked on having all three versions. Plus, (hed)p.e. being an underground needs all the support they can get!
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PostSubject: Re: Pre-order New World Orphans!   Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:05 am

I'll pay that last point brother.
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PostSubject: Re: Pre-order New World Orphans!   Sun Dec 21, 2008 5:16 pm

Bonus
21. Work On This featuring Tech N9ne
22. Babylon Fall

I wonder if those two are included on every version. They say Bonus, so, I dunno. They're listed for each version.
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PostSubject: Re: Pre-order New World Orphans!   Sun Dec 21, 2008 5:45 pm

its a marketing scheme...

dont really appreciate that jah is doing it but oh well. lol.

ill bitch him out in a few weeks!
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PostSubject: Re: Pre-order New World Orphans!   Sun Dec 21, 2008 7:45 pm

what about that track 4smokazonly it's only on the import version, where the fuck do you get that?
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PostSubject: Re: Pre-order New World Orphans!   Sun Dec 21, 2008 8:16 pm

I'm guessing the import version. Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Pre-order New World Orphans!   Sun Dec 21, 2008 8:22 pm

Kirby wrote:
I'm guessing the import version. Laughing


hahaha

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PostSubject: Re: Pre-order New World Orphans!   Sun Dec 21, 2008 8:39 pm

lol. yeah it must be on the U.S. retail version.
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PostSubject: Re: Pre-order New World Orphans!   Sun Dec 21, 2008 11:40 pm

i was hoping it would be on the bonus ep for some reason since we were sposed to get something specail with the preorder, and as far as a marketing scheme money is money and we all try to make as much money as possible just like everyone else does on a daily basis cuz we are all slaves!
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PostSubject: Re: Pre-order New World Orphans!   Mon Dec 22, 2008 1:02 am

I think i'm the only one who doesnt think all they're trying to do is scheme us.
They went all out, recorded almost 30 tracks (which could not go on just one cd), put together this great preorder, have been just doing nothing but greatness
And all half of you can say is 'oh i dont appreciate it, its a marketing scheme'

And then maybe when their next album comes out, they'll do a shit job...and you'll still be complaining.
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PostSubject: Re: Pre-order New World Orphans!   Mon Dec 22, 2008 1:17 am

If they wanted all of our money, the pre-order for all three CD's would have cost at least another 13 dollars.
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PostSubject: Re: Pre-order New World Orphans!   Mon Dec 22, 2008 1:22 am

I don't see anything wrong with hed or any artist doing this, because we could all download it for free. Today this is what musicians have to do if they want to make money. They need more than just music for the fans to actually want to buy their album. Its your choice buy it or don't.

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PostSubject: Re: Pre-order New World Orphans!   Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:12 am

well said zombified that what i was saying
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PostSubject: Re: Pre-order New World Orphans!   Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:20 am

Madman what are you talking about you think you're the only one who holds that opinion??? Sinister agreed with you!

You say they recorded 30 tracks...many are intro's and some that we have heard eg. Live or Die Free lasts no longer than 2 mins. In fact of the four songs on the Truth EP (not intro songs I might add, WHOLE songs) the CD lasts less than ten minutes. So as far as the full length N.W.O. CD goes this one MIGHT be about what you'd get on a standard CD with regards to timing. You don't know how long the songs go for yet so there is certainly a possibility they could fit all songs on a CD.

On the note of 30 songs being recorded and them going 'all out' it seems some are demo's from the past which were recorded a long time ago.

If you're referring to me when you say that I don't appreciate it you'd be wrong. I can appreciate that this is a way for (hed) to make extra money but I feel that it would have been nicer if they made just one album. I've been supporting (hed) for a loooong time and I love them to bits and I am psyched for this album. I appreciate every song they hit my way I just don't like the 3 separate CD's idea. Nothing but an opinion. As I said before all those who pre-ordered all 3 good on you, (hed) DO need all the support they can get. I have no qualms. Just a personal opinion is all.

And as for 'Today this is what musicians have to do if they want to make money' I gotta disagree. You can certainly make money without making 3 separate albums of varying colours with a few differing songs.
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